Every job, priced, plus a calculator that works out what you should charge.
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Put in your own rent, power, insurance and wage, and it breaks your overhead down to a price, the same math shop owners tell each other to do in the groups. Then the rate card shows the low, typical and high for every common job, from more than a thousand prices shops posted publicly. Your costs set your price. The rate card shows you if it's too low.
"You charge what you think feels right... Some say my shop is very reasonably priced and some say I'm way too high."
A shop owner, nine years in business.Real footage from a coating shop.
A few months ago a shop owner posted four patio chairs and a table in a trade group and asked what he should charge. Over 200 shops answered. The lowest said $650. The highest said $4,000. One admitted his own $700 quote should have been $900. Same chairs, same powder, a $3,350 spread, and every one of those shops was serious.
That thread is not unusual. It happens every time the question gets asked. Ask what furniture is worth anywhere coaters talk and the answers land the same way. "Fully disassembled, $350." "I only do them single color, and generally charge $600 to $650 for that." "Chairs usually about $225 each and the table really about the same," which is $1,125 for the same five pieces. One man has priced himself out of the work on purpose: "I went on a mission to end the lawn furniture curse last summer. I kept raising prices until they weren't bringing them any more, but the ones who did paid dearly and we got PAID."
Not one of those men is a fool. Same five pieces of metal, and every one of them working from a different number, arrived at a different way, with nothing to check it against. A shop owner put it flatly in the middle of one of those threads: "Prices are all over the place."
We watched that thread from an unusual seat. We work inside the powder industry, and for years we've had the view no single shop gets: what thousands of shops charge, what they pay, and where they lose money. And the thing about pricing is, the people with that data are the one group legally unable to discuss it with you. Suppliers can't talk prices. So the trade guesses, out loud, every day.
What we did about it
We read a year of the trade's own pricing conversations, thousands of posts and comments across the communities where coaters actually talk, and we wrote down every number. More than 2,000 prices, stated by working shops, organized by job.
Then we threw half of them away. A price is worth nothing unless you know what job it was attached to, so a number only counted when the job it named sat right beside it. That left the 1,000-plus where a working shop said what the work was and what they charged for it.
Nobody had done it before because nobody was in a position to. A shop can't: you see your own numbers and whatever scatters through a comment thread. A supplier can't, not legally. So pricing moves through this trade one man at a time, by luck: "When I first started out I had the owner of another local shop go over his price guide with me, and I still try to follow it." That is the good version of how a coater learns what to charge, and it depends on knowing the right man.
What came out of it
Thirteen job types came out with enough real prices behind them to publish, each with the middle of the market and the spread. The one that stopped us was wheels, the most-quoted job in the trade, 227 prices behind it. A quarter of shops are at $125 a wheel or less. A quarter are at $300 or more. Same wheel, same powder, same week, and the shop at the bottom of that band is doing identical work for less than half of what the shop at the top gets.
The minimum is worse, because it is the one number a shop sets on its own with nobody's permission. Fifty-seven shops stated theirs. The middle sits at $150 and so does the top quarter, which means the market has already agreed. Shops are still saying it out loud at $50 and $60.
The middle of the market is real and knowable. Wheels: $175 a wheel at the median, $500 to $1,200 a set. Shop minimum: $150. It's just never been written down before.
The spread is 3x to 6x on identical work. Not because of regions. Because nobody knows the number.
The cheapest shops aren't winning, they're losing money on every job. "$150 per wheel. Anything less you're not going to retire," as one put it, while the market pays $1,100 a set all day.
The shops that know their numbers use the same few rules: cost plus margin, 25 to 50% more per stage, a real minimum. The trade already invented the system. It's scattered across ten thousand posts. Nobody ever collected it.
Most shops are not underpricing on purpose. They set a ceiling years ago at a number that felt safe, and nothing has ever told them otherwise.
Here is what that looks like in the open. In one conversation about a single set of wheels, a coater laid out his ceiling: "I honestly wouldn't expect to actually charge more than $150 each in most circumstances." In the same conversation, a shop twenty years in: "We charge $1,100 if they are dropping the car off. We get that all day long. Extremely rarely does somebody think the price is high." And a third man, who had rung round the shops himself before he started: "everything minus one shop I called was in the $1,100 to $1,400 range."
Same job. One man has decided $600 a set is the top of the world. The market is paying $1,100 and does not blink. He is not being beaten by a competitor. He is being beaten by a number he made up once and never checked.

A look inside the rate card
Three rows unlocked. The rest are in the book.
| Job | Median | Typical range |
|---|---|---|
| Wheels, per wheel | $175 | $125 to $300 |
| Wheels, per set | $700 | $500 to $1,200 |
| Shop minimum | $150 | $75 to $150 |
| Frames, cages, chassis | •••• | in the book |
| Patio furniture | •••• | in the book |
| Small parts, per piece | •••• | in the book |
| Per linear foot | •••• | in the book |
| Exhaust, headers, mufflers | •••• | in the book |
| Calipers | •••• | in the book |
| Hourly rate | •••• | in the book |
What do you charge to coat a set of four wheels?
Drag the dial to what you charge.
The middle of the market is $100 above you.
227 recorded prices, single stage, bare wheels, one number out. This is what shops said they charge, not what anyone says you should. That is one job. The rate card has thirteen.
The Price Book. 30 pages, numbered steps, five jobs priced start to finish (wheel set, frame, patio set, 70-piece batch, per-foot work).
The Job Pricing Calculator. Your labor, your powder price, real transfer efficiency, prep, oven, rework. Five minutes to a defensible number.
The Market Rate Card. What shops actually charge, by job, median and spread. More than 2,000 prices recorded, kept to the 1,000+ that name the exact job: a price without the job attached is noise, and we don't count noise. This has never existed for this trade.
Plus three bench cards, made to print:
The Wheel Set Card. Price a set in 60 seconds, bare or tires-on.
The Shop Minimum Card. The market says $150; the exact two ways to say it at the counter.
The Redo Ledger. What a strip-and-recoat really costs you, filled in for your shop.
The same PDF, printed and open at the wheel-set pages.
One set of wheels priced at the bottom of the market instead of the middle costs you about $500. On one job.
The trade's median shop rate is $125 an hour. This costs less than fifteen minutes of your time.
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| Quoting now | Quoting with the Price Book |
|---|---|
| The number comes from your gut | The number comes from your costs |
| Strangers on Facebook price your jobs | You answer the "what would you charge?" posts |
| $50 minimum because saying more feels rude | $150 minimum, said two ways, no apology |
| The redo comes out of your pocket, uncounted | Rework is a line on every quote |
| No idea where you sit in the market | Your price, next to the market's, on one card |
"I been doing this near fifteen years and still caught myself looking at a part thinking, hell, what do I charge for that? This book put actual numbers to it. Not somebody's cousin doing wheels in his garage for beer money, real shop prices. I was too cheap on frames and way too cheap on anything with heavy prep. Fixed that real quick."
Lead powder coater, custom finishing shop, Western Pennsylvania"I'm a one-man deal, so if I price a job wrong, I'm the one sweating for free. Ran my bills through the calculator and found out my shop rate needed to be a whole lot higher than what I'd been using. Now I cost it, check the rate card and say the number. If they don't like it, that's all right. At least I ain't paying to coat their parts."
Independent powder coater, one-person shop, Rural Oklahoma"I used to post a picture in the group and get numbers from $300 to $1,200. Now I cost the job, check the card and give the customer one number. If the guy down the road is cheaper, that's fine. At least I know what it costs me to do it right."
Shop manager, commercial powder coating operation, Southern California"The shop minimum card is staying by the counter. Two little brackets still mean a full setup, gun clean and oven heat, and I was basically giving that away. The redo ledger wasn't fun to fill out either, but I needed to see it. No fluff in this thing."
Co-owner, automotive powder coating shop, Middle Tennessee
If it's not worth it to your shop, email us within 30 days of buying and we'll refund the $29.
People who work inside the powder industry and got tired of watching good shops undercharge. We don't sell powder, equipment, or anything else on this page, and no supplier's name appears in the book. The book doesn't care whose powder you shoot.
Not technique, we promise. You know how to coat. This is what the market charges and a system for knowing your number before the customer asks. The man leaving $500 a set on the table has been coating a long time too.
More than 2,000 prices stated publicly by working shops across the trade's own communities in the last year. The rate card keeps the 1,000+ that name the exact job, organized by job type. Anonymous, aggregated, and we show the spread, not just an average.
The rate card shows the middle of the market and the range. High cost-of-living areas sit at the top of the band, rural shops nearer the bottom. The calculator prices from YOUR costs either way, which is the part that matters.
PDF, built for the phone and for print. The three cards are made to be printed and stuck up in the shop.
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Results depend on your shop and your market. The market rate card reports what shops have publicly stated they charge; it is not a recommendation to charge any particular price, and you set your own prices independently.
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